![]() Not many people know that every time Kenny had to do something he had to go into Jerry’s office and ask permission. ![]() How do you get hired after your (second) DUI? They hired Tony LaRussa, with his background … if Dusty had had 2 DUIs, how would the media have treated him (when they hired him in Houston)? They would have had to have a different manager. Because people are talking about dysfunction and that’s been going on for a long time. I’ve been thinking the last six or seven years: is he asleep up there? Jerry. What was your reaction to the news that the White Sox had fired Williams and Hahn, two men you worked with? ( The Athletic has confirmed this story Williams declined to comment.) ![]() But he told Dusty, when Dusty gave me a job at his solar company to get me out of the halfway house, ‘Why did you hire him?’ After I went to prison, he still wanted to ruin my life? That (job) was the first thing I could do to get out. Wilder.’ (Williams) never said anything to me. Dusty is my big brother, mentor, he’s one of the best people I’ve ever known. I was at Cal with Dusty (Baker) years ago watching Dusty’s son, and he came over to say hello to Dusty. For some reason, (Wiliams) won’t say anything to my face. Have you spoken to Williams or Reinsdorf since you got out? (When asked for comment, a White Sox representative said: ‘We do not feel a convicted felon’s more than 15-year-old opinions, as well as his excuses for illegal activities victimizing the team and innocent Latin American players and families, merit a platform or a response.’) I was everything wrong with what happened, but I never went and buried the other guys in Latin America or the other guys (in the organization) who knew what was going on. (Two former White Sox employees told The Athletic that while the word ‘firing’ was not used, Reinsdorf made it clear that employees should distance themselves from Wilder so as to not potentially implicate themselves in the FBI probe.) A lot of my memories have not been positive, because Kenny and Jerry made it known that anyone who reached out to me in the organization would be fired. )ĭid you have any interaction with anyone from the White Sox? (This has been confirmed by The Athletic. He tried to get me a job, but Arizona’s ownership blocked it. Stew (former Diamondbacks GM Dave Stewart) and I talked while I was in jail. If they did, why didn’t they take Reggie Jackson’s money ? (Jackson has claimed former commissioner Bud”Selig blocked his attempt to purchase the Oakland A’s in the early 2000s.)ĭid you know going to prison that your career in baseball was likely over, or did you think you’d be able to get back into the game? They don’t want Black ownership in the game, either. When I was with the Cubs, Andy (MacPhail) told me, after you take two or three interviews those owners aren’t going to hire you, because then it’s like, ‘Well, Kansas City didn’t hire you, or this other team didn’t, why would we hire you?’ So, no, I wasn’t getting hired even before all this (bonus skimming). So the whole, ‘Oh, he could have been a GM if he didn’t screw up,’ that’s bulls. I played, went back to school, got a business degree, did player development. Just so they could mark off that they interviewed a Black guy. The Kansas City job, they flew in and I interviewed on the plane and then they flew off. At the end, I went and got to meet Peter. I met with (Orioles owner Peter) Angelos’ lawyer. Arizona, Kansas City, Pittsburgh, Boston, Baltimore. Did you ever think about that, what may have happened if you hadn’t done this? ![]() You were viewed as a future general manager before this scandal. But I’ll never look at life the same way. We had 300 people in this dorm, five urinals and five toilets. Listening and hearing the stuff that goes on there. That (legal) process before I went in lasted several years. You want to know the truth about it? It was terrible. You did two years at a low-security federal penitentiary in Lompoc. Everyone else gets second chances but Black people. I was ready when I came out of prison in 2015. Why did you decide to talk about this now?ĭavid Wilder: Because nobody has ever asked me. It’s been a decade since you were sentenced to federal prison. Kepner: Pulled back to the ballpark, for a day of Phillies-Braves.
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